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Well, the better ask is why eBay bought it...


And even when eBay thought they bought it, apparently they didn’t buy all of it:

https://www.theregister.com/2009/11/06/ebay_skype/

https://www.hugheshubbard.com/news/the-best-laid-m-a-plans-h...


Oh it gets better. Apparently some of the stuff they didn't get dated back to Kazaa. Some of the Skype founders were under indictment and traveling incognito while they raised money for the new company.


I had interacted with Pritt Kasesalu (PrittK) when I was very young. In the late 90/early 00s I played an MMO developed by Sony Online Entertainment (SOE) named Subspace, released in the mid 90s. It was a top down astroids-like space game with maps of up to 100 or more players, even back then.

The game shut down officially but the server leaked and became community ran. The original client was not very secure so hacking and cheating became common.

Out of nowhere comes Continuum, a ground up reimplementation of the Subspace client by none other than PrittK, completely eliminating any cheats but changing nothing of gameplay or UI.

He went on to co-own the largest server, Trench Wars, with another player named Dock. There he did custom game bots and other chat-tools. There were rumors that he was involved with Kazaa back then and later on I find out he goes on to be involved with Skype and Joost.

Continuum continued to grow and thrive. The backend server was eventually reimplemented into A Small Subspace Server (ASSS) so now this game was a complete user recreation of the original.

Well, minus the graphics which was in limbo from some sale to a third party company but they never had complaints. Then a few years ago we grt the game green lit on steam.

Little trek down memory lane.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SubSpace_(video_game)

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2530450/Continuum/


Amusingly KaZaA itself was one of my first experiences using an “alternative” client for something. There was KaZaA Lite which removed the bundled Cydoor malware, K++ which added hax features like unlimited searches and forced 1000 node reputation, and the most famous KaZaA Lite K++ which did both. Lots of others too like “KL Extensions”, K-Sig, K-Dat, but those were the two big ones.


Wow that was a blast from the past. I remember hanging out on the K-Lite forums back in the day and when a new release was exciting.


Back in the day when you could download random .exe’s with relatively low risk.

Feels unconscionable today that I used to do that from paytv forums.


I think you linked the wrong steam game, it's https://store.steampowered.com/app/352700/Subspace_Continuum...

:)


Whoops, thank you, yes.


Makes sense that the SuperPeers core from Kazaa was re-used in Skype.


eBay is just a terrible company. (Yet, I like and use it more than Amazon).

ebay had Paypal. They had Skype. And Skype was a kind of social network.

eBay could have been Facebook, WhatsApp, WeChat, WYSE, but eBay always stayed, eBay.


eBay was great for the first few years. After that it just slowly enshittified. The search has only got worse, never better in 20 years.

I can't tell if their research pushes them to make the site continuously worse, or whether they just generally hate their users?

note: I've used it religiously since it launched


My theory is that they sit on a mountain of technical debt that nobody dares touching. I think they started in Perl, then URLs started pointing to DLLs (!), so heck knows what they've done...

They were one of the very first websites that had to deal with humongous scaling issues, so I'm not saying they are stupid - just that, after a certain point in time, they probably ossified at a level that makes meaningful progress too difficult.




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